Meanwhile, 100s of OpenAI employees are threatening to quit and join Altman at Microsoft unless the remaining board members resign. Turns out, if you sell AI-idealistic people on bettering the world, they don’t want to wait to do so (and get rich in the bargain).
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IMO, the big mistake the OpenAI board made occurred months ago: they allowed the for-profit part of the company (you can read up on the company's structure here) to start steering the ship. And once the capitalists get involved, especially if they see their mission as benefitting all of humanity, they are going to want to go fast and hard and for the glory (and the associated riches). All this is just trying to put the genie back in the bottle, with predictable results.
From Inside the Chaos at OpenAI by Charlie Warzel & Karen Hao (who is writing a book about OpenAI):
100s is a little bit of an understatement, it's 550 of 700 employees (78%).
Also thank you Jason for allowing/trusting us to create our own fine hypertext comments.
And includes the person who pushed Altman out (Ilya Sutskever) and the person who initially replaced him (Mira Murati).
That's the part that really floors me. I can understand Murati - allegedly she took the acting position hoping to bring Altman back - but what the heck was Sutskever thinking?!
Another interesting read on all this is Ben Thompson's OpenAI's Misalignment and Microsoft's Gain. Although, if I am reading him correctly, I disagree that OpenAI's corporate structure is fundamentally to blame. I think for-profit, skin-in-the-game structures are certainly great for going fast and competing hard, but that's not the only metric for business success. (Happy to be corrected if I misunderstood what he was getting at.)
Robin Sloan:
This feels like the wildest tech story in quite some time. Ilya Sutskever is tweeting about Altman's firing like it was a thing that happened without his direct involvement. The majority of the company is threatening to resign if the board doesn't resign first. Microsoft has hired Altman and company. I am looking forward to the Vanity Fair oral history of this weekend.
Part of me wonders if by the end of the week Microsoft has announced it is buying OpenAI. I can't tell if that's because it is a smart move for MS to do that or if I just want more of this bizarre and chaotic drama all week and would be sad if it's all over now.
From The Information:
EXCLUSIVE
Former GitHub Chief Nat Friedman Declined OpenAI Interim CEO Role
By Kate Clark · Monday, Nov. 20, 2023
Nat Friedman, the former CEO of Microsoft-owned GitHub and a prolific investor in artificial intelligence startups, was asked by an OpenAI board member to take over as the Interim CEO of OpenAI on Sunday but he declined the offer, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.
The refusal shows the challenges facing OpenAI’s board in finding a new leader following the board's Friday firing of OpenAI co-founder Sam Altman, which set off a string of senior resignations. Late Sunday, OpenAI co-founder and chief scientist Ilya Sutskever said Altman would not be reinstated, as some employees wanted, and that Emmett Shear, co-founder of Amazon-owned video streaming site Twitch, would take over as Interim CEO.
The Verge: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO.
One of my few quibbles with Succession was how quickly massive business deals and maneuvers happened on the show. This OpenAI/Microsoft stuff is giving that pace a run for its money.
A small, well written section of today's email from Dave Pell of Nextdraft:
To Jason's last comment, I did see a "You are not serious people" meme somewhere in reference to Friday's announcement.
The Effective Altruism angle to all of this has been my favorite part. Assuming that the reporting bears out that the central disagreement was about speed and safety (trying to put the genie back in the bottle as you said @kottke) I think it's very funny that the group of people who are convinced that an infinitely persuasive AI will destroy humanity managed to persuade no one that firing Sam Altman was a good idea and were completely unprepared for the consequences of their actions.
Thank you for pointing this out, can hardly agree more that this is among the funniest parts of all this.
From OpenAI tonight:
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